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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:49 PM
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To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
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Hello, Peter. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to your
attention. My name is Codie Vickers. I'm sure you have some preconceived
notions about me based on reports from your administrators. I ask you
to set aside this bias when reviewing this email and its contents.
Approximately forty-five (45) minutes ago I received a voice mail on my
cell phone from one of your moderators, "Thunder", wherein he stated
"hahaha your days are numbered, fucker". Clearly this is a threatening
message. I have attached a digital copy of this message as I received
it.
I appreciate you taking the time to review this email. I also urge
you to consider well the choices that have been made of people to
represent the movement you have started. This person "Thunder" has quite
an extensive history of threatening people, and he uses his moderator
status and the ability to ban people to conceal his actions and to muddy
the waters, so that he is able to characterize people however he
wishes. He's not the only moderator who does this, and who hurls the
label "troll" at people the same way the label "terrorist" is hurled at
people to evoke emotional responses.
I have told "Thunder" and "Azzy" and "DarkDancer" and other
moderators how I feel about these heavy handed tactic they use, tactics
which primarily exclude people in what I had been led to believe was an
inclusive movement designed to improve everyone's lives and society as a
whole. I have also tried several methods of getting this information
into the forums so that people can make informed decisions as to who and
what they will support. These attempts were further used to paint me as
a "troll", a "vandal" and so on. I feel that I have endured quite a bit
of harassment by your moderator team since I joined the movement.
Again, I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about that based on
what "Thunder" and other moderators have told you. I implore you to do
something about this situation, as I have been informed that this
threatening voice mail is legally actionable. The last thing I want is
to engage the legal system here, but I feel at this point I have no
choice.
I'd also like to get "Thunder"'s full name and address from you so
that I can pursue a legal remedy to this harassment. This harassment
constitutes a violation of both state and federal law. In order to
pursue those remedies, I need this person's information. Thanks in
advance.
regards, Codie Vickers -- "You
have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." -
Anonymous
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<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM
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To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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Go fuck yourself Codie.
We are all
working to get a restraining order against you and it IS going to
happen, so have fun while you can with your stupid games. Peter
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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:19 PM
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To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
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Good luck with that, making threats the way "Thunder" did is violation
of federal cyberstalking laws, and the FBI has been informed. Such
actions are punishable by up to two years in federal prison. I hope
"Thunder" has a good lawyer, and I hope you do, too.
regards, Codie Vickers PS: Watch your language,
potty-mouth.
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<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM
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To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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...we have so much against you in the form of
harassment and "hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that you think
you can intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will enjoy
seeing you put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the restaining
order against you and violate it. And you think I don't have legal
team? You think I am not prepared for shit like this. Think again,
asshole. Peter
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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:28 PM
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To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
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I'm very disappointed in this response. I'd expect this from somebody I
have less respect for, but not Peter Joseph Merola. regards, Codie
Vickers
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<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:30 PM
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To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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Peter Joseph Merola Esquire, to be exact. You need my address? Please
note that I have had a case file being set up for you for months. I am
so excited you have email me to continue your harassment- PERFECT! keep
em coming fuckhead.
Peter
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Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM
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Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it that you're
prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and threaten people
with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to get away with
violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the law, and
"Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time in federal
prison constructively.
regards, Codie Vickers
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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM
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To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
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I think you should calm down, Peter Jospeh Merola. Blowing your top
isn't going to do you any good, and it won't do "Thunder" any good,
either. My advice would be to tone down your language. Is this really
the face you want to present to the world?
regards, Codie Vickers
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<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM
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To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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Once again: go fuck yourself and expect the sheriff to issue
a restraining order soon against you.
( and
btw- moron- me saying you are going to get restraining order isn't a
"threat"- it is fully legal accusation, supported by evidence- so
please- get your shit together. )
End of
Communication.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:32 pm
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it that you're
prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and threaten people
with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to get away with
violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the law, and
"Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time in federal
prison constructively.
regards, Codie Vickers On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:26
PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
wrote: ...we have so much
against you in the form of harassment and "hate crime" that it is beyond
laughable that you think you can intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING
documented. I will enjoy seeing you put in jail as the bigot you are
after we get the restaining order against you and violate it. And you
think I don't have legal team? You think I am not prepared for
shit like this. Think again, asshole. Peter
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:
threats made via voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
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To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
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I'd never suggest that a legal restraining order is a threat, but
"Thunder"'s voice mail to me is being taken very seriously as a threat
by the FBI. I can only hope that he uses his time in federal prison
productively. Incidentally, Peter Joseph Merola, what is it that I've
done that has riled you so? I concluded from listening to your lectures
and your audio blogs that you were much more level-headed than this.
What is with all the profanity?
If you'd care to discuss this with me in person, feel free to visit
the RBOSE forums, the Mumble server or the IRC server. These forums are
open to all members of the zeitgeist movement, including you, including
me, and you will have no fear there of being harassed and intimidated by
moderators in the fashion many users have experienced on the zeitgeistmovement.com
web site.
The server information for the RBOSE Mumble server and IRC server
follows: website: http://rbose.org/
IRC information: server: rbose.org
port: 6677 /server rbose.org
6677 IRC web client (click): http://rbose.serveirc.com/?channels=RBOSE
Are meeting will be conduct in the mumble server, which is voice
over IP it's like ventrilo or Teamspeak but it's open source. mumble:
server: rbose.org port:
64738
If you'd care to just listen in on the Mumble server, we have a
Shoutcast server set up: http://24.164.124.9:8000/listen.pls
regards, Codie Vickers
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<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM
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To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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You will see the case against you when the sheriff comes to
your house.
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Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM
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"Thunder" will see the case against him when the FBI visits him. regards, Codie
Vickers
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<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM
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To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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lol
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Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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Plautus Satire
<plautus@gmail.com>
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Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:08 PM
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To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
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http://www.cyberguards.com/CyberStalking.html" Federal law provides a number of important
tools that are
available to combat cyberstalking. Under 18 U.S.C. 875(c), it is a
federal crime,
punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to
$250,000, to transmit any
communication in interstate or foreign commerce containing a threat
to injure the person
of another. Section 875(c) applies to any communication actually
transmitted in interstate
or foreign commerce - thus it includes threats transmitted in
interstate or foreign
commerce via the telephone, e-mail, beepers, or the Internet." " Certain forms of cyberstalking also may be
prosecuted under
47 U.S.C. 223. One provision of this statute makes it a federal
crime, punishable by up to
two years in prison, to use a telephone or telecommunications device
to annoy, abuse,
harass, or threaten any person at the called number. The
statute
also requires that the
perpetrator not reveal his or her name. See 47 U.S.C.
223(a)(1)(C).
Although this statute
is broader than 18 U.S.C. 875 -- in that it covers both threats and
harassment -- Section
223 applies only to direct communications between the perpetrator
and the victim." Please inform Gregory Wantz that
if he had told me who he was in the voice mail that he would not have
violated this federal statute. Let me tell you, the FBI takes these laws
very seriously.
regards, Codie Vickers
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