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threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"

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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Attachment Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:49 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Hello, Peter. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to your attention. My name is Codie Vickers. I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about me based on reports from your administrators. I ask you to set aside this bias when reviewing this email and its contents. Approximately forty-five (45) minutes ago I received a voice mail on my cell phone from one of your moderators, "Thunder", wherein he stated "hahaha your days are numbered, fucker". Clearly this is a threatening message. I have attached a digital copy of this message as I received it.

I appreciate you taking the time to review this email. I also urge you to consider well the choices that have been made of people to represent the movement you have started. This person "Thunder" has quite an extensive history of threatening people, and he uses his moderator status and the ability to ban people to conceal his actions and to muddy the waters, so that he is able to characterize people however he wishes. He's not the only moderator who does this, and who hurls the label "troll" at people the same way the label "terrorist" is hurled at people to evoke emotional responses.

I have told "Thunder" and "Azzy" and "DarkDancer" and other moderators how I feel about these heavy handed tactic they use, tactics which primarily exclude people in what I had been led to believe was an inclusive movement designed to improve everyone's lives and society as a whole. I have also tried several methods of getting this information into the forums so that people can make informed decisions as to who and what they will support. These attempts were further used to paint me as a "troll", a "vandal" and so on. I feel that I have endured quite a bit of harassment by your moderator team since I joined the movement. Again, I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about that based on what "Thunder" and other moderators have told you. I implore you to do something about this situation, as I have been informed that this threatening voice mail is legally actionable. The last thing I want is to engage the legal system here, but I feel at this point I have no choice.

I'd also like to get "Thunder"'s full name and address from you so that I can pursue a legal remedy to this harassment. This harassment constitutes a violation of both state and federal law. In order to pursue those remedies, I need this person's information. Thanks in advance.

regards,

Codie Vickers

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"You have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous


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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
Go fuck yourself Codie.

We are all working to get a restraining order against you and it IS going to happen, so have fun while you can with your stupid games.

Peter

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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:19 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Good luck with that, making threats the way "Thunder" did is violation of federal cyberstalking laws, and the FBI has been informed. Such actions are punishable by up to two years in federal prison. I hope "Thunder" has a good lawyer, and I hope you do, too.

regards,

Codie Vickers

PS: Watch your language, potty-mouth.

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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
blah blah blah... moron.

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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
...we have so much against you in the form of harassment and "hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that you think you can intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will enjoy seeing you put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the restaining order against you and violate it. And you think I don't have  legal team? You think I am not prepared for shit like this. Think again, asshole.
Peter
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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:28 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I'm very disappointed in this response. I'd expect this from somebody I have less respect for, but not Peter Joseph Merola.

regards,

Codie Vickers

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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:30 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
Peter Joseph Merola Esquire, to be exact. You need my address? Please
note that I have had a case file being set up for you for months. I am
so excited you have email me to continue your harassment- PERFECT! keep
em coming fuckhead.
Peter


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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it that you're prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and threaten people with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to get away with violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the law, and "Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time in federal prison constructively.

regards,

Codie Vickers

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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I think you should calm down, Peter Jospeh Merola. Blowing your top isn't going to do you any good, and it won't do "Thunder" any good, either. My advice would be to tone down your language. Is this really the face you want to present to the world?

regards,

Codie Vickers

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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
Once again: go fuck yourself and expect the sheriff to issue a restraining order soon against you.

( and btw- moron- me saying you are going to get restraining order isn't a "threat"- it is fully legal accusation, supported by evidence- so please- get your shit together. )

End of Communication.

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Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:32 pm
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it that you're prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and threaten people with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to get away with violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the law, and "Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time in federal prison constructively.

regards,

Codie Vickers

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com> wrote:
...we have so much against you in the form of harassment and "hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that you think you can intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will enjoy seeing you put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the restaining order against you and violate it. And you think I don't have  legal team? You think I am not prepared for shit like this. Think again, asshole.
Peter

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From: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I'd never suggest that a legal restraining order is a threat, but "Thunder"'s voice mail to me is being taken very seriously as a threat by the FBI. I can only hope that he uses his time in federal prison productively. Incidentally, Peter Joseph Merola, what is it that I've done that has riled you so? I concluded from listening to your lectures and your audio blogs that you were much more level-headed than this. What is with all the profanity?

If you'd care to discuss this with me in person, feel free to visit the RBOSE forums, the Mumble server or the IRC server. These forums are open to all members of the zeitgeist movement, including you, including me, and you will have no fear there of being harassed and intimidated by moderators in the fashion many users have experienced on the zeitgeistmovement.com web site.

The server information for the RBOSE Mumble server and IRC server follows:

website: http://rbose.org/

IRC information: server: rbose.org port: 6677
/server rbose.org 6677

IRC web client (click): http://rbose.serveirc.com/?channels=RBOSE

Are meeting will be conduct in the mumble server, which is voice over IP it's like ventrilo or Teamspeak but it's open source.

mumble: server: rbose.org port: 64738

If you'd care to just listen in on the Mumble server, we have a Shoutcast server set up:

http://24.164.124.9:8000/listen.pls

regards,

Codie Vickers
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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
You will see the case against you when the sheriff comes to your house.


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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
"Thunder" will see the case against him when the FBI visits him.

regards,

Codie Vickers

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media@thezeitgeistmovement.com

<media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM
To: Plautus Satire <plautus@gmail.com>
lol
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Plautus Satire

<plautus@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:08 PM
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
http://www.cyberguards.com/CyberStalking.html

"Federal law provides a number of important tools that are available to combat cyberstalking. Under 18 U.S.C. 875(c), it is a federal crime, punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, to transmit any communication in interstate or foreign commerce containing a threat to injure the person of another. Section 875(c) applies to any communication actually transmitted in interstate or foreign commerce - thus it includes threats transmitted in interstate or foreign commerce via the telephone, e-mail, beepers, or the Internet."

"Certain forms of cyberstalking also may be prosecuted under 47 U.S.C. 223. One provision of this statute makes it a federal crime, punishable by up to two years in prison, to use a telephone or telecommunications device to annoy, abuse, harass, or threaten any person at the called number. The statute also requires that the perpetrator not reveal his or her name. See 47 U.S.C. 223(a)(1)(C). Although this statute is broader than 18 U.S.C. 875 -- in that it covers both threats and harassment -- Section 223 applies only to direct communications between the perpetrator and the victim."

Please inform Gregory Wantz that if he had told me who he was in the voice mail that he would not have violated this federal statute. Let me tell you, the FBI takes these laws very seriously.

regards,

Codie Vickers
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