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made via voice mail by "Thunder"Plautus
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You will see the case against you when the
sheriff comes to your house.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> - Show quoted text -
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:47 pm
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I'd never suggest that a legal restraining order is a threat, but
"Thunder"'s voice mail to me is being taken very seriously as a threat
by the FBI. I can only hope that he uses his time in federal prison
productively. Incidentally, Peter Joseph Merola, what is it that I've
done that has riled you so? I concluded from listening to your lectures
and your audio blogs that you were much more level-headed than this.
What is with all the profanity? If you'd care to discuss this
with me in person, feel free to visit the RBOSE forums, the Mumble
server or the IRC server. These forums are open to all members of the
zeitgeist movement, including you, including me, and you will have no
fear there of being harassed and intimidated by moderators in the
fashion many users have experienced on the zeitgeistmovement.com
web site. The server information for the RBOSE Mumble server
and IRC server follows: website: http://rbose.org/
IRC information: server: rbose.org port: 6677 /server rbose.org 6677 IRC
web client (click): http://rbose.serveirc.com/?channels=RBOSE
Are meeting will be conduct in the mumble server, which is voice
over IP it's like ventrilo or Teamspeak but it's open source. mumble:
server: rbose.org port:
64738 If you'd care to just listen in on the Mumble server, we
have a Shoutcast server set up: http://24.164.124.9:8000/listen.pls
regards, Codie Vickers On
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
wrote: Once
again: go fuck yourself and expect the sheriff to issue a restraining
order soon against you.
( and btw- moron- me
saying you are going to get restraining order isn't a "threat"- it is
fully legal accusation, supported by evidence- so please- get your shit
together. )
End of Communication.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: threats
made via voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it
that you're prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and
threaten people with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to
get away with violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the
law, and "Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time
in federal prison constructively.
regards, Codie
Vickers ...we have so much against you in
the form of harassment and "hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that
you think you can intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will
enjoy seeing you put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the
restaining order against you and violate it. And you think I don't
have legal team? You think I am not prepared for shit like this.
Think again, asshole. Peter
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: threats made via
voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:19 pm To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Good luck with that, making threats the way "Thunder" did is
violation of federal cyberstalking laws, and the FBI has been informed.
Such actions are punishable by up to two years in federal prison. I hope
"Thunder" has a good lawyer, and I hope you do, too. regards, Codie
Vickers PS: Watch your language, potty-mouth. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
wrote: Go
fuck yourself Codie.
We are all working to
get a restraining order against you and it IS going to happen, so have
fun while you can with your stupid games. Peter
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: threats made via
voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 1:49 pm To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Hello, Peter. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to
your attention. My name is Codie Vickers. I'm sure you have some
preconceived notions about me based on reports from your administrators.
I ask you to set aside this bias when reviewing this email and its
contents. Approximately forty-five (45) minutes ago I received a voice
mail on my cell phone from one of your moderators, "Thunder", wherein he
stated "hahaha your days are numbered, fucker". Clearly this is a
threatening message. I have attached a digital copy of this message as I
received it. I appreciate you taking the time to
review this email. I also urge you to consider well the choices that
have been made of people to represent the movement you have started.
This person "Thunder" has quite an extensive history of threatening
people, and he uses his moderator status and the ability to ban people
to conceal his actions and to muddy the waters, so that he is able to
characterize people however he wishes. He's not the only moderator who
does this, and who hurls the label "troll" at people the same way the
label "terrorist" is hurled at people to evoke emotional responses. I
have told "Thunder" and "Azzy" and "DarkDancer" and other moderators
how I feel about these heavy handed tactic they use, tactics which
primarily exclude people in what I had been led to believe was an
inclusive movement designed to improve everyone's lives and society as a
whole. I have also tried several methods of getting this information
into the forums so that people can make informed decisions as to who and
what they will support. These attempts were further used to paint me as
a "troll", a "vandal" and so on. I feel that I have endured quite a bit
of harassment by your moderator team since I joined the movement.
Again, I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about that based on
what "Thunder" and other moderators have told you. I implore you to do
something about this situation, as I have been informed that this
threatening voice mail is legally actionable. The last thing I want is
to engage the legal system here, but I feel at this point I have no
choice. I'd also like to get "Thunder"'s full name and address
from you so that I can pursue a legal remedy to this harassment. This
harassment constitutes a violation of both state and federal law. In
order to pursue those remedies, I need this person's information. Thanks
in advance. regards, Codie Vickers -- "You
have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." -
Anonymous
-- "You have to be lucky all the time, we only
have to get lucky once." - Anonymous
-- "You
have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." -
Anonymous
-- "You have to be lucky all the time, we only have
to get lucky once." - Anonymous
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"Thunder" will see the case against him when the FBI visits him. regards, Codie
Vickers - Show
quoted text - On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
wrote:
You
will see the case against you when the sheriff comes to your house.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"
From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:47 pm
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I'd never suggest that a legal restraining order is a threat, but
"Thunder"'s voice mail to me is being taken very seriously as a threat
by the FBI. I can only hope that he uses his time in federal prison
productively. Incidentally, Peter Joseph Merola, what is it that I've
done that has riled you so? I concluded from listening to your lectures
and your audio blogs that you were much more level-headed than this.
What is with all the profanity?
If you'd care to discuss this with me in person, feel free to visit
the RBOSE forums, the Mumble server or the IRC server. These forums are
open to all members of the zeitgeist movement, including you, including
me, and you will have no fear there of being harassed and intimidated
by moderators in the fashion many users have experienced on the zeitgeistmovement.com
web site.
The server information for the RBOSE Mumble server and IRC server
follows: website: http://rbose.org/
IRC information: server: rbose.org port: 6677 /server rbose.org 6677 IRC
web client (click): http://rbose.serveirc.com/?channels=RBOSE
Are meeting will be conduct in the mumble server, which is voice
over IP it's like ventrilo or Teamspeak but it's open source. mumble:
server: rbose.org port:
64738
If you'd care to just listen in on the Mumble server, we have a
Shoutcast server set up: http://24.164.124.9:8000/listen.pls
regards, Codie Vickers On
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
wrote:
Once
again: go fuck yourself and expect the sheriff to issue a restraining
order soon against you.
( and btw- moron- me saying you are going to get
restraining order isn't a "threat"- it is fully legal accusation,
supported by evidence- so please- get your shit together. )
End of Communication.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus
Satire < plautus@gmail.com> Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it
that you're prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and
threaten people with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to
get away with violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the
law, and "Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time
in federal prison constructively.
regards, Codie Vickers
...we have so much against you in the form of harassment and
"hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that you think you can
intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will enjoy seeing you
put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the restaining order
against you and violate it. And you think I don't have legal team?
You think I am not prepared for shit like this. Think again, asshole.
Peter
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus
Satire < plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:19 pm
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Good luck with that, making threats the way "Thunder" did is
violation of federal cyberstalking laws, and the FBI has been informed.
Such actions are punishable by up to two years in federal prison. I hope
"Thunder" has a good lawyer, and I hope you do, too.
regards, Codie Vickers PS: Watch your language,
potty-mouth. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at
5:09 PM, <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
wrote:
Go
fuck yourself Codie.
We are all working to get a restraining order
against you and it IS going to happen, so have fun while you can with
your stupid games. Peter
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: threats made via
voice mail by "Thunder" From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 1:49 pm
To: media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
Hello, Peter. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to
your attention. My name is Codie Vickers. I'm sure you have some
preconceived notions about me based on reports from your administrators.
I ask you to set aside this bias when reviewing this email and its
contents. Approximately forty-five (45) minutes ago I received a voice
mail on my cell phone from one of your moderators, "Thunder", wherein he
stated "hahaha your days are numbered, fucker". Clearly this is a
threatening message. I have attached a digital copy of this message as I
received it.
I appreciate you taking the time to review this email. I also urge
you to consider well the choices that have been made of people to
represent the movement you have started. This person "Thunder" has quite
an extensive history of threatening people, and he uses his moderator
status and the ability to ban people to conceal his actions and to muddy
the waters, so that he is able to characterize people however he
wishes. He's not the only moderator who does this, and who hurls the
label "troll" at people the same way the label "terrorist" is hurled at
people to evoke emotional responses.
I have told "Thunder" and "Azzy" and "DarkDancer" and other
moderators how I feel about these heavy handed tactic they use, tactics
which primarily exclude people in what I had been led to believe was an
inclusive movement designed to improve everyone's lives and society as a
whole. I have also tried several methods of getting this information
into the forums so that people can make informed decisions as to who and
what they will support. These attempts were further used to paint me as
a "troll", a "vandal" and so on. I feel that I have endured quite a bit
of harassment by your moderator team since I joined the movement.
Again, I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about that based on
what "Thunder" and other moderators have told you. I implore you to do
something about this situation, as I have been informed that this
threatening voice mail is legally actionable. The last thing I want is
to engage the legal system here, but I feel at this point I have no
choice.
I'd also like to get "Thunder"'s full name and address from you so
that I can pursue a legal remedy to this harassment. This harassment
constitutes a violation of both state and federal law. In order to
pursue those remedies, I need this person's information. Thanks in
advance.
regards, Codie Vickers -- "You have to be lucky
all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous
-- "You have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get
lucky once." - Anonymous
-- "You have to be lucky all the time, we
only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous
--
"You have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." -
Anonymous
-- "You have to be lucky
all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous
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