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made via voice mail by "Thunder"  Plautus
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 You will see the case against you when the 
sheriff comes to your house. 
 
 
  
-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder" 
From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> - Show quoted text - 
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:47 pm 
To:  media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I'd never suggest that a legal restraining order is a threat, but 
"Thunder"'s voice mail to me is being taken very seriously as a threat 
by the FBI. I can only hope that he uses his time in federal prison 
productively. Incidentally, Peter Joseph Merola, what is it that I've 
done that has riled you so? I concluded from listening to your lectures 
and your audio blogs that you were much more level-headed than this. 
What is with all the profanity?  If you'd care to discuss this 
with me in person, feel free to visit the RBOSE forums, the Mumble 
server or the IRC server. These forums are open to all members of the 
zeitgeist movement, including you, including me, and you will have no 
fear there of being harassed and intimidated by moderators in the 
fashion many users have experienced on the  zeitgeistmovement.com
 web site.  The server information for the RBOSE Mumble server 
and IRC server follows:  website:  http://rbose.org/
 IRC information: server:  rbose.org port: 6677  /server  rbose.org 6677 IRC 
web client (click):  http://rbose.serveirc.com/?channels=RBOSE 
 Are meeting will be conduct in the mumble server, which is voice 
over IP it's like ventrilo or Teamspeak but it's open source.  mumble:
 server:  rbose.org port:
 64738   If you'd care to just listen in on the Mumble server, we
 have a Shoutcast server set up: http://24.164.124.9:8000/listen.pls
 regards, Codie Vickers On 
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM,  <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
 wrote:  Once
 again: go fuck yourself and expect the sheriff to issue a restraining 
order soon against you.  
 
 ( and btw- moron- me 
saying you are going to get restraining order isn't a "threat"- it is 
fully legal accusation, supported by evidence- so please- get your shit 
together. )   
  End of Communication.
 
  
 
  -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Re: threats 
made via voice mail by "Thunder"  From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com>  Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it 
that you're prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and 
threaten people with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to 
get away with violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the 
law, and "Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time 
in federal prison constructively.  
  regards, Codie 
Vickers    ...we have so much against you in 
the form of harassment and "hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that
 you think you can intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will 
enjoy seeing you put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the 
restaining order against you and violate it. And you think I don't 
have  legal team? You think I am not prepared for shit like this. 
Think again, asshole.   Peter
  
 
   
-------- Original Message --------  Subject: Re: threats made via 
voice mail by "Thunder"  From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> 
  Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:19 pm  To:  media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
  Good luck with that, making threats the way "Thunder" did is 
violation of federal cyberstalking laws, and the FBI has been informed. 
Such actions are punishable by up to two years in federal prison. I hope
 "Thunder" has a good lawyer, and I hope you do, too.  regards, Codie
 Vickers PS: Watch your language, potty-mouth. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM,  <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
 wrote:  Go
 fuck yourself Codie.  
 
 We are all working to 
get a restraining order against you and it IS going to happen, so have 
fun while you can with your stupid games.  Peter
 
 
 
  -------- Original Message --------  Subject: threats made via 
voice mail by "Thunder"  From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> 
 Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 1:49 pm  To:  media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
  Hello, Peter. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to 
your attention. My name is Codie Vickers. I'm sure you have some 
preconceived notions about me based on reports from your administrators.
 I ask you to set aside this bias when reviewing this email and its 
contents. Approximately forty-five (45) minutes ago I received a voice 
mail on my cell phone from one of your moderators, "Thunder", wherein he
 stated "hahaha your days are numbered, fucker". Clearly this is a 
threatening message. I have attached a digital copy of this message as I
 received it.  I appreciate you taking the time to 
review this email. I also urge you to consider well the choices that 
have been made of people to represent the movement you have started. 
This person "Thunder" has quite an extensive history of threatening 
people, and he uses his moderator status and the ability to ban people 
to conceal his actions and to muddy the waters, so that he is able to 
characterize people however he wishes. He's not the only moderator who 
does this, and who hurls the label "troll" at people the same way the 
label "terrorist" is hurled at people to evoke emotional responses.  I
 have told "Thunder" and "Azzy" and "DarkDancer" and other moderators 
how I feel about these heavy handed tactic they use, tactics which 
primarily exclude people in what I had been led to believe was an 
inclusive movement designed to improve everyone's lives and society as a
 whole. I have also tried several methods of getting this information 
into the forums so that people can make informed decisions as to who and
 what they will support. These attempts were further used to paint me as
 a "troll", a "vandal" and so on. I feel that I have endured quite a bit
 of harassment by your moderator team since I joined the movement. 
Again, I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about that based on 
what "Thunder" and other moderators have told you. I implore you to do 
something about this situation, as I have been informed that this 
threatening voice mail is legally actionable. The last thing I want is 
to engage the legal system here, but I feel at this point I have no 
choice.  I'd also like to get "Thunder"'s full name and address 
from you so that I can pursue a legal remedy to this harassment. This 
harassment constitutes a violation of both state and federal law. In 
order to pursue those remedies, I need this person's information. Thanks
 in advance.  regards, Codie Vickers --  "You 
have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - 
Anonymous        
   --  "You have to be lucky all the time, we only 
have to get lucky once." - Anonymous        
 
  
 
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 have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - 
Anonymous
         
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 to get lucky once." - Anonymous 
  
  
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 "Thunder" will see the case against him when the FBI visits him. regards, Codie
 Vickers - Show 
quoted text - On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM,   <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
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 You
 will see the case against you when the sheriff comes to your house. 
 
 
  
-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder" 
From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> 
Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:47 pm 
To:  media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
I'd never suggest that a legal restraining order is a threat, but 
"Thunder"'s voice mail to me is being taken very seriously as a threat 
by the FBI. I can only hope that he uses his time in federal prison 
productively. Incidentally, Peter Joseph Merola, what is it that I've 
done that has riled you so? I concluded from listening to your lectures 
and your audio blogs that you were much more level-headed than this. 
What is with all the profanity?
  If you'd care to discuss this with me in person, feel free to visit
 the RBOSE forums, the Mumble server or the IRC server. These forums are
 open to all members of the zeitgeist movement, including you, including
 me, and you will have no fear there of being harassed and intimidated 
by moderators in the fashion many users have experienced on the  zeitgeistmovement.com
 web site.
  The server information for the RBOSE Mumble server and IRC server 
follows:  website:  http://rbose.org/
 IRC information: server:  rbose.org port: 6677  /server  rbose.org 6677 IRC 
web client (click):  http://rbose.serveirc.com/?channels=RBOSE 
 Are meeting will be conduct in the mumble server, which is voice 
over IP it's like ventrilo or Teamspeak but it's open source.  mumble:
 server:  rbose.org port:
 64738
   If you'd care to just listen in on the Mumble server, we have a 
Shoutcast server set up: http://24.164.124.9:8000/listen.pls
 regards, Codie Vickers On 
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM,  <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
 wrote:
  Once
 again: go fuck yourself and expect the sheriff to issue a restraining 
order soon against you. 
 
 
 ( and btw- moron- me saying you are going to get 
restraining order isn't a "threat"- it is fully legal accusation, 
supported by evidence- so please- get your shit together. )  
 
  End of Communication.
 
     
-------- Original Message -------- 
 Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"  From: Plautus
 Satire < plautus@gmail.com>  Wow, color my mind officially blown. What "shit" is it 
that you're prepared for, exactly? You're prepared to harass and 
threaten people with impunity? Don't think that "Thunder" is going to 
get away with violating federal cyberstalking laws. Nobody is above the 
law, and "Thunder" violated the law. I sincerely hope he uses his time 
in federal prison constructively. 
 
  regards, Codie Vickers 
 
  ...we have so much against you in the form of harassment and 
"hate crime" that it is beyond laughable that you think you can 
intimidate me. We have EVERYTHING documented. I will enjoy seeing you 
put in jail as the bigot you are after we get the restaining order 
against you and violate it. And you think I don't have  legal team?
 You think I am not prepared for shit like this. Think again, asshole. 
  Peter
  
 
   
-------- Original Message -------- 
 Subject: Re: threats made via voice mail by "Thunder"  From: Plautus
 Satire < plautus@gmail.com> 
  Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:19 pm 
 To:  media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
  Good luck with that, making threats the way "Thunder" did is 
violation of federal cyberstalking laws, and the FBI has been informed. 
Such actions are punishable by up to two years in federal prison. I hope
 "Thunder" has a good lawyer, and I hope you do, too.
  regards, Codie Vickers PS: Watch your language, 
potty-mouth. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 
5:09 PM,  <media@thezeitgeistmovement.com>
 wrote:
  Go
 fuck yourself Codie. 
 
 
 We are all working to get a restraining order 
against you and it IS going to happen, so have fun while you can with 
your stupid games.  Peter
 
  
  -------- Original Message --------  Subject: threats made via 
voice mail by "Thunder"  From: Plautus Satire < plautus@gmail.com> 
 Date: Sat, April 17, 2010 1:49 pm 
 To:  media@thezeitgeistmovement.com
  Hello, Peter. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to 
your attention. My name is Codie Vickers. I'm sure you have some 
preconceived notions about me based on reports from your administrators.
 I ask you to set aside this bias when reviewing this email and its 
contents. Approximately forty-five (45) minutes ago I received a voice 
mail on my cell phone from one of your moderators, "Thunder", wherein he
 stated "hahaha your days are numbered, fucker". Clearly this is a 
threatening message. I have attached a digital copy of this message as I
 received it.
  I appreciate you taking the time to review this email. I also urge 
you to consider well the choices that have been made of people to 
represent the movement you have started. This person "Thunder" has quite
 an extensive history of threatening people, and he uses his moderator 
status and the ability to ban people to conceal his actions and to muddy
 the waters, so that he is able to characterize people however he 
wishes. He's not the only moderator who does this, and who hurls the 
label "troll" at people the same way the label "terrorist" is hurled at 
people to evoke emotional responses.
  I have told "Thunder" and "Azzy" and "DarkDancer" and other 
moderators how I feel about these heavy handed tactic they use, tactics 
which primarily exclude people in what I had been led to believe was an 
inclusive movement designed to improve everyone's lives and society as a
 whole. I have also tried several methods of getting this information 
into the forums so that people can make informed decisions as to who and
 what they will support. These attempts were further used to paint me as
 a "troll", a "vandal" and so on. I feel that I have endured quite a bit
 of harassment by your moderator team since I joined the movement. 
Again, I'm sure you have some preconceived notions about that based on 
what "Thunder" and other moderators have told you. I implore you to do 
something about this situation, as I have been informed that this 
threatening voice mail is legally actionable. The last thing I want is 
to engage the legal system here, but I feel at this point I have no 
choice.
  I'd also like to get "Thunder"'s full name and address from you so 
that I can pursue a legal remedy to this harassment. This harassment 
constitutes a violation of both state and federal law. In order to 
pursue those remedies, I need this person's information. Thanks in 
advance.
  regards, Codie Vickers --  "You have to be lucky 
all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous   
     
  
 --  "You have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get 
lucky once." - Anonymous        
 
 
 
 
  --  "You have to be lucky all the time, we 
only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous
        
 
 --  
"You have to be lucky all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - 
Anonymous 
  
  
 --  "You have to be lucky 
all the time, we only have to get lucky once." - Anonymous
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