What is it about 'us'
that makes it so simple for us to understand and yet so difficult for
the masses. It isn't even to do with a person's educational level. There
are plenty of really smart people that just don't 'get it'.
I think its the fact
that a major social transitional change appears outrageous to them. With
the amount of crime in the world, instability already sweeping across
the globe, and the fact they feel comfortable in their homes, not
wanting to involve themselves, etc. It's their laziness to acknowledge
and act, IMO. They will be forced to realise the true seriousness of the
situation soon enough as they begin seeing their friends and family
gradually spiral into poverty.
What saddens me is that
one of my friends invested into the stock market today by putting her
money into a world mining fonds with about 50% increase in value over
the past 6 months... and we had the "talk" already
surbitonpete wrote: What is it about 'us' that makes it so simple for
us to understand and yet so difficult for the masses. It isn't even to
do with a person's educational level. There are plenty of really smart
people that just don't 'get it'.
I have a theory about this:
It's not related to intelligence, but to imagination. Being a math genius doesn't necesarely make you creative.
I was a fan of Sci-Fi my entire life, and I always considered that
things could be better than today ( ever since childhood ). However,
until not so long ago I considered technology to be the one that brings
changes. When years passed and there were no significant changes EVEN if
technology advanced rapidly during my life time, I realised it's not
enough. And since two documentaries ( "Money is Debt" and "Zeitgeist" ),
I begun understanding why.
To really allow technology to manifest to it's true potential, a new
social paradigm is necessary, and it just happens that the ideas
promoted in this movement are closest to what I felt it's right, the way
it SHOULD be.
Sorry, just needed to let off some steam 1 Day, 17 Hours ago
(This is what I call
coincidence, I was just about to post this rant and the first thing I
saw was your rant Peter. I hope you don’t mind me letting off a little
steam.)
I have been trying to get the word out about zeitgeist movement at
several outlets and I posted the following on an anti-war advocate’s
site that has a lot of followers. The constant responses I keep getting
from so many are either negative or lack of interest.
Here’s what I posted:
The “Zeitgeist Movement” is the most important movement in human
history! It is designed to completely free humanity and save the earth
through a resource-based economy. Please don’t just ignore it, my kids
and your kids are depending on us to bring them towards a future worth
living in!
Zeitgeist: Addendum - 2008 by Peter Joseph
Here are just a couple of the basic short responses (the first one is from the main host of anti-war):
o Fart sound.
4 hours ago •
o *sigh* Just because it doesn't come from the mainstream, doesn't mean it's not propaganda.
3 hours ago
This is only some of the many responses that I keep getting everywhere.
There are many really negative and mean responses but I only posted a
couple lighthearted ones here. Even before I discovered the zeitgeist
movement I have been trying to wake people up for years and people are
just too thick (brainwashed).
I really hate to say it but I am almost completely convinced (and have
been for years now) that it’s going to take an entire collapse of
everything and complete caose and homelessness for people to even begin
waking up to reality. But the sad reality is, the greedy rich elitists
have already stockpiled up resources far away from society so that they
can sit back and watch everyone kill each other and die from starvation,
and if they see people rebuilding a new society all they'll have to do
is push a button to destroy the group of people that are trying to
catalyze the change. It is the same scenario as the matrix, the
technology is already so advanced that the elite that own and operate
that hidden technology have the power to control it from a distance
without having to worry about the population finding them.
Anyway, Here’s what I wrote in response to the anti-war advocates but I
didn’t post it because I realize I just needed to let out steam and
didn’t want to come across negatively to him and his followers.
I figured since you were anti-war that you would be anti-slave too, was I
wrong? Here's a good quote for unconscious brainwashed mind-controlled
society, "most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many
of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependant on the system, that they
will fight to protect it."
I’ve known since I was a kid that we are slaves in a corrupt system,
consciousness in an unconscious world is the most painful part of this
experience, witnessing the programmed human condition, obliviousness,
apathy and contentment, seeing others all around me wake up early just
to go to some slave job so that that job will give them pieces of paper
(money) that says they are allowed to live on this planet, as they look
down on people who aren’t willing to subscribe to their system. I want
nothing more than to help people yet the people I want to help are the
enemy just like this quote describes, “The Matrix is a system, Neo. That
system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around. What do
you see? Business people, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds
of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are
still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.”
Have you ever tried to live without money to find out just how un-free
you really are? As long as land and resources are owned, we are not
free. You can’t even catch a fish to eat without breaking a law because
you have to “buy” a fishing license, much less squat on a piece of
unused land and grow a vegetable garden.
I have only recently discovered the zeitgeist movement but they didn’t
show me anything new, they are just trying to show people some of the
truths I have been trying to say all along. It’s nice to see that
someone is willing to stand up and try to do something.
Somebody trying to stop a war doesn’t effect us one bit, neither does
war itself unless of course your family or friends are brainwashed
enough to join the military. We are still slaves to money regardless. If
people want to stop a war then keep your family and friends from
joining the military. But that is hard to do when people are so broke
that they feel that they have no choice but to join the military because
they entice people in with money, and they even brainwash the people
enough to think they will be heroes and patriots in the eyes of their
whole country, like it’s honorable and something to be proud of that
their killing people.
Have you ever thought that the reason your anti-war show is being
allowed on the radio is to distract and redirect societies focus from
the real issue, that we are slaves?
Zeitgeist doesn't have all the solutions but they do have the problem
mostly pegged, we are slaves to a corrupt monetary system. But even they
are partially unaware and don't realize that it goes much higher than
just some greedy rich elitists. Higher consciousness is a continual
process and at least zeitgeisters were willing to begin that process
instead of just ignoring the root problems of the world.
I don't know about you but I don't want my kids to be slaves like us.
Apathy and ignorance is plaguing our society. People are living in a state of “ignorance is bliss” and don’t even realize it.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone, there was no offense intended, I'm
just very frustrated. My weakness is that I care too much and I always
will, that’s just who I am, I love people even if they hurt me. I
realize that most people are so brainwashed that they know not what they
do. Hopefully we can all come together as a collective and wake up more
people sooner than later or they will be awoken the hard and painful
way.
How are you? I hope this letter finds you doing well. I was hoping to
send this to your personal e-mail but I can't seem to find your e-mail
address, and the contact section of your website asks that it's only 25
lines but it is difficult to relay any meaningful information with such
limitations. That's part of the reason I don't like Facebook. Anyway I
hope you find this post and have a few minutes to read it.
It is sad and frustrating that people and/or groups are fighting for
basically the same cause, but yet are being mind controlled to fight
each other. This is very counterproductive for the overall movement.
Please try not to react the same way that Alex Jones and countless
others constantly react to you, because I know very well that you know
how it feels to try to get truth out to someone but yet they won't
listen. I'm trying to get a very important truth to you because it is
imperative that you and everyone know this, the whole entire zeitgeist
movement is dependent on knowing this information or the movement will
never succeed.
I am an electronics technician and have done a lot of hands-on research
into the topic of electronic mind/emotion control through the use of
radio waves and it is ‘no doubt’ real. Many devices that I have tested
on myself have the capability of putting voices in your head completely
bypassing the ears. Other similar but more advanced devices have the
capability of inducing specific thoughts and thought patterns, emotions,
dreams/visions, memories and even manipulate consciousness. In short
whoever is at the operating end of these technologies have the literal
ability of controlling the majority of the populations thoughts,
emotions and ultimately their actions without anyone knowing it.
People just assume that their thoughts and emotions are their own
because they don't realize this technology truly exists. Whoever is in
control has already set up the majority of the electronic mind control
infrastructure on a global level which is disguised as basic everyday
technologies such as cell phone towers, satellites, cameras, GPS,
infrared etc. I know this sounds crazy as well but they also have
technology with the ability to monitor and control all other technology
systems within the real world such as all electronics and computer
systems, just like it is portrayed in the movie Eagle Eye but it is much
more profound than what they portray in Eagle Eye because they use mind
control in conjunction with everyday computerized control systems.
Please don't just pass me off as some kind of conspiracy theorist
without hearing me out because that is what they want you to do because
they don't want people such as you who have the capability of getting a
message out on a mass scale to discover the truth. What I'm trying to
tell you is no different than the way you're trying to tell people about
the advanced technologies that you know about that can completely
automate industry to free everyone from slave labor.
I have seen most of your videos and you seem to have good intent and a
very objective and open mind capable of thinking outside the box, but
the box that you have stepped outside of is still inside of another more
elusive box. I'm not asking that you believe me, I'm simply asking that
you hear me out with an open mind so that I can show you.
The zeitgeist movement or any other movement for that matter will never
work until people wake up and realize that mind control doesn't just
exist in the form of passive ‘psychological methodology’ through the use
of media, but also a ‘physical technology’ with the ability to induce
control through the use of radio waves interacting with the physical
brain. I know this sounds absolutely absurd and crazy, believe me I've
always been a skeptic about such things until I had some of the physical
electronic devices in my hands to test their abilities, it is mind
blowing and causes such an extremely scary awakening that is very hard
to accept because it forces an uprooting of your entire belief
structure. Learning of these truths is a very disturbing process but it
still must be faced if we are to realistically awaken humanity and
change this world.
I don't claim to know exactly how all the more advanced technologies
work, but I do believe that somehow every person has their own DNA cell
phone number for lack of a better word. So they are able to control
people on an individual level when needed yet also control society
collectively. But it's in such a covert and subtle way that people don't
realize it.
I don't really like using movies as an example because it may cause you
to not take me seriously just because the stories are so-called
fictional, but there are many movies that put these technologies I’m
describing into perspective. A few of the movies that touch on the topic
of mind control are ones such as; The Matrix, Surrogates and Gamer. A
couple movies that touch on the topic of infrastructure systems control
are; Eagle Eye, Live Free or Die Hard. And one that touches on energy
technology is Chain Reaction.
For many years I have been researching and testing many of these
technologies I speak of and I assure you they are very real so please
don't just automatically disregard what I say just because I used movies
as an example. Please at least watch these movies with the mindset of
“education” instead of “entertainment”.
Peter, if at all possible I would very much like to get together with
you to talk to you and show you many of the things that I have
discovered in the many years I've been on this journey of truth,
enlightenment and scientific discovery. Please don't take this the wrong
way because it's not meant in a negative way whatsoever, but you are
also being manipulated and distracted from the real more profound
truths. The monetary system is no doubt a huge control system but the
conspiracy goes to a much higher level of control.
Whoever is in control of these mind control grids are very likely
laughing at us because the monetary system is just another psychological
distracter to try to keep the more intelligent minds such as us
occupied from discovering the larger more profound truths. A monetary
system collapse is by no means going to stop them, matter fact they may
even implement a collapse themselves as part of their plan. As I've said
they have already stockpiled all the resources they could ever need for
a long time, they could easily wait out the entire event while still
living in luxury at their remote hideouts until the so-called Apocalypse
is over.
Well I’m gonna go ahead and stop right there and hope that my message
gets to you and that you don't just ignore it the same way a lot of
people just ignore your messages. After all, part of the zeitgeist
message is to bring the ones with knowledge together in order to share
and spread the knowledge, and that's all I'm trying to do so please just
hear me out. Thank you and I hope I can look forward to hearing from
you.
How are you? I hope this letter finds you doing well. I was hoping to
send this to your personal e-mail but I can't seem to find your e-mail
address, and the contact section of your website asks that it's only 25
lines but it is difficult to relay any meaningful information with such
limitations. That's part of the reason I don't like Facebook. Anyway I
hope you find this post and have a few minutes to read it.
It is sad and frustrating that people and/or groups are fighting for
basically the same cause, but yet are being mind controlled to fight
each other. This is very counterproductive for the overall movement.
Please try not to react the same way that Alex Jones and countless
others constantly react to you, because I know very well that you know
how it feels to try to get truth out to someone but yet they won't
listen. I'm trying to get a very important truth to you because it is
imperative that you and everyone know this, the whole entire zeitgeist
movement is dependent on knowing this information or the movement will
never succeed.
I am an electronics technician and have done a lot of hands-on research
into the topic of electronic mind/emotion control through the use of
radio waves and it is ‘no doubt’ real. Many devices that I have tested
on myself have the capability of putting voices in your head completely
bypassing the ears. Other similar but more advanced devices have the
capability of inducing specific thoughts and thought patterns, emotions,
dreams/visions, memories and even manipulate consciousness. In short
whoever is at the operating end of these technologies have the literal
ability of controlling the majority of the populations thoughts,
emotions and ultimately their actions without anyone knowing it.
People just assume that their thoughts and emotions are their own
because they don't realize this technology truly exists. Whoever is in
control has already set up the majority of the electronic mind control
infrastructure on a global level which is disguised as basic everyday
technologies such as cell phone towers, satellites, cameras, GPS,
infrared etc. I know this sounds crazy as well but they also have
technology with the ability to monitor and control all other technology
systems within the real world such as all electronics and computer
systems, just like it is portrayed in the movie Eagle Eye but it is much
more profound than what they portray in Eagle Eye because they use mind
control in conjunction with everyday computerized control systems.
Please don't just pass me off as some kind of conspiracy theorist
without hearing me out because that is what they want you to do because
they don't want people such as you who have the capability of getting a
message out on a mass scale to discover the truth. What I'm trying to
tell you is no different than the way you're trying to tell people about
the advanced technologies that you know about that can completely
automate industry to free everyone from slave labor.
I have seen most of your videos and you seem to have good intent and a
very objective and open mind capable of thinking outside the box, but
the box that you have stepped outside of is still inside of another more
elusive box. I'm not asking that you believe me, I'm simply asking that
you hear me out with an open mind so that I can show you.
The zeitgeist movement or any other movement for that matter will never
work until people wake up and realize that mind control doesn't just
exist in the form of passive ‘psychological methodology’ through the use
of media, but also a ‘physical technology’ with the ability to induce
control through the use of radio waves interacting with the physical
brain. I know this sounds absolutely absurd and crazy, believe me I've
always been a skeptic about such things until I had some of the physical
electronic devices in my hands to test their abilities, it is mind
blowing and causes such an extremely scary awakening that is very hard
to accept because it forces an uprooting of your entire belief
structure. Learning of these truths is a very disturbing process but it
still must be faced if we are to realistically awaken humanity and
change this world.
I don't claim to know exactly how all the more advanced technologies
work, but I do believe that somehow every person has their own DNA cell
phone number for lack of a better word. So they are able to control
people on an individual level when needed yet also control society
collectively. But it's in such a covert and subtle way that people don't
realize it.
I don't really like using movies as an example because it may cause you
to not take me seriously just because the stories are so-called
fictional, but there are many movies that put these technologies I’m
describing into perspective. A few of the movies that touch on the topic
of mind control are ones such as; The Matrix, Surrogates and Gamer. A
couple movies that touch on the topic of infrastructure systems control
are; Eagle Eye, Live Free or Die Hard. And one that touches on energy
technology is Chain Reaction.
For many years I have been researching and testing many of these
technologies I speak of and I assure you they are very real so please
don't just automatically disregard what I say just because I used movies
as an example. Please at least watch these movies with the mindset of
“education” instead of “entertainment”.
Peter, if at all possible I would very much like to get together with
you to talk to you and show you many of the things that I have
discovered in the many years I've been on this journey of truth,
enlightenment and scientific discovery. Please don't take this the wrong
way because it's not meant in a negative way whatsoever, but you are
also being manipulated and distracted from the real more profound
truths. The monetary system is no doubt a huge control system but the
conspiracy goes to a much higher level of control.
Whoever is in control of these mind control grids are very likely
laughing at us because the monetary system is just another psychological
distracter to try to keep the more intelligent minds such as us
occupied from discovering the larger more profound truths. A monetary
system collapse is by no means going to stop them, matter fact they may
even implement a collapse themselves as part of their plan. As I've said
they have already stockpiled all the resources they could ever need for
a long time, they could easily wait out the entire event while still
living in luxury at their remote hideouts until the so-called Apocalypse
is over.
Well I’m gonna go ahead and stop right there and hope that my message
gets to you and that you don't just ignore it the same way a lot of
people just ignore your messages. After all, part of the zeitgeist
message is to bring the ones with knowledge together in order to share
and spread the knowledge, and that's all I'm trying to do so please just
hear me out. Thank you and I hope I can look forward to hearing from
you.
With Love,
John
John1313
I want to take away any bias with my response. So without any
assumptions, please post a video of the machine that can control peoples
minds through radio waves. It is not that we don't believe in it, it is
just that we must arrive at our decisions through observations and
scientific inquiry.
You said that you do not like to post movies, but a short video will
suffice. please if you make the video, have a controlled group and
choose a fellow zeitgeist member to be the subject. It will become much
easier for us to believe in what you are saying if you do this.
But if you say there is something much bigger than what we are
advocating for, than a simple test of your hypothesis will be needed,
and perhaps retested to make sure there isn't any flukes.
PLEASE, do not continue to ramble on about your discovery until you can prove it.
