No one is really disagreeing with the idea or theory of "mind control" but there is an easy and simple way to keep your mind to your self so to speak. It is known as self discovery. There are plenty of "tricks" and "techniques" that help one is Breathing. Kung Fu brings this to light. Self discipline. Even just spending time in isolation gives you a perspective that calms the mind. Hypnotists have shown a person can be influenced through words. These do not take much research to find out. I will not cite any resource I encourage personal research. This way you know what is true for you. If someone finds interest in what is said let them come to the decision and not be forced to accept it. Find your truth, facts, research. I know what is true for me and I communicate it through channels that everyone can relate to either first hand or third party.

I think everyone in the movement should apply for unemployment and social security or do whatever else they can including tax evasion to bankrupt the country as fast as we can.

Has Peter contacted John Stewart? about the rally for sanity thing? because I read there are about 100 000 people showing up there, good opportunity to hand out some "blue pills"

Sumpeeps wrote:
I think everyone in the movement should apply for unemployment and social security or do whatever else they can including tax evasion to bankrupt the country as fast as we can.
Applied for EI today haha now I can spend my time droping off dvd's in every mailbox in town.

John, Saying that we should prove what you are saying ourselves is akin to Albert Einstein saying that he's come up with the theory of relativity, but wanting us to figure it out on our own. That's just silly. You obviously have more experience in the field you're talking about than us. What technical information can you give us that would allow us to make one of these devises in order to prove it ourselves? I'm not being closed minded; I'm being practical. Usually the scientist who discovers something will always have to prove his theory to a panel of other scientists via a series of replicable experiments and formulations. Telling the panel about something isn't proving anything.

The internet is an incredible place where lies and conspiracy multiply like bacteria. Why, because anybody can say anything. Hell, I could tell you I'm Barack Obama and you wouldn't belive me unless I proved it to you. What's the difference with your story?


(I'm not Obama; just trying to make a point.)

I know my statement is relatively accurate because I was taking 1st and 2nd hand information. I have had friends hypnotized and they did some pretty crazy things that they would never do normally. Also the breathing exercises are first hand experience it works and several others I know personally with a background in Martial Arts (not MMA) say and proven it works for them. Just thought I would give you an account of source of information. Though there is no way for me to prove this to you unless you try or experience it first hand yourself.

peterjoseph wrote:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/20/obama-on-cnbc_n_731917.html

Video:
www.huffingtonpost.com/video/video_3103.html?1285020176

No one has a clue, do they? They don't get the game at all...

No one understands the monetary/fractional reserve pyramid scheme that has created an international global bubble, 200 years in the making, that can only be overcome by total global collapse, if the debt/expansion game is adhered to.

No one understands that Wall Street is the central catalysis/mindset for anti-social intent which is able to capitalize on the fall and destruction of a soceity itself.

No one understands that Obama has proven already that he is going to do nothing because he has been put into his position under the pretense of monetary protection and every policy he has advocated has proven this. He is only a scape goat as of now.

No one understands that the jobs are not coming back in America and that the new paradigm is a permanent unemployment class which can only grow as purchasing power is eroded by both mechanization and perpetual, infinitely growing debt both public and private.

No one understands that sooner or later even unemployment checks will fail to materialize, if they are not utterly eroded into nothing by hyper-inflation.

No one understands that the stage is set for global warfare as the dominant and unprecedented energy crisis goes un- addressed.

No one understands that the game will end one way or another... yet from here on out it is a looming choice - either we change everything or we continue a progressive and constant move of decline/suffering for the majority of the world's population.

I also wouldnt say NO ONE gets it...I would say not nearly enough people get it.

Thats why as I keep saying we have to really push our cause out into the open.

Organize mass awareness campaigns...and doing it in the street is good, but its not enough.

We have to call in to popular radio shows, write to TV shows, write to news papers.

But it has to be steadfast and organized...force the conversation, but it has to be in mass, and it has to be in unison for people to actually take notice and not write us off with a one liner...

Because even though the movies have been viewed by tens of millions, most people dont even know we exist and havent seen the whole scope of the information we present.

I have been desperately trying to organize people to do these flash communication campaigns with me, so far not much luck...

Awareness is the most important thing we can do right now, but none of us can do it alone....we have to unite and push our ideas out on whatever platform we can.

Because doing it alone or in a small group gets incredibly frustrating.

Hookay, this thread has gone some interesting places in a short time. Back to the original topic shall we?

peterjoseph wrote:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/20/obama-on-cnbc_n_731917.html
Video:
www.huffingtonpost.com/video/video_3103.html?1285020176

No one has a clue, do they? They don't get the game at all...
No one understands the monetary/fractional reserve pyramid scheme that has created an international global bubble, 200 years in the making, that can only be overcome by total global collapse, if the debt/expansion game is adhered to.
I do not claim to know the TVP/TZM's plan for the future, but it is statements like this (the part in bold) which keep being slung back against us repeatedly. I know you of all people already know that Peter, as you and the mods deal with the trolls and other such mudslinging repeatedly. So it came to me as somewhat a surprise to see such a comment from you.
Again, I do not claim to know what the plans for the future hold, but this remark somewhat surprised me. Did I really miss something?





No one understands that Wall Street is the central catalysis/mindset for anti-social intent which is able to capitalize on the fall and destruction of a soceity itself.
No one understands that Obama has proven already that he is going to do nothing because he has been put into his position under the pretense of monetary protection and every policy he has advocated has proven this. He is only a scape goat as of now.
No one understands that the jobs are not coming back in America and that the new paradigm is a permanent unemployment class which can only grow as purchasing power is eroded by both mechanization and perpetual, infinitely growing debt both public and private.
No one understands that sooner or later even unemployment checks will fail to materialize, if they are not utterly eroded into nothing by hyper-inflation.Someone else on this website pointed out once that you used to deal a bit with economics. Any particular markers you see on the horizon we should keep an eye on? Other than currency and employment rates?

Talon...notice what he said right after

"that can only be overcome by total global collapse, if the debt/expansion game is adhered to."

Meaning if we continue to hold on to this game the only way it will end is in global collapse...

Correct me if Im wrong..but I dont think he is saying that total collapse is LITERALLY the only possible way for things to change, BUT...aside from a massive awakening to the true nature of the system and a willful change, then unfortunately it will be the only thing that will bring about change.

Talon...notice what he said right after

"that can only be overcome by total global collapse, if the debt/expansion game is adhered to."

Meaning if we continue to hold on to this game the only way it will end is in global collapse...

Thank you.

The game can be stopped at anytime. There is no technical need for collapse - only for the bio-social pressure to influence the public awakening.

It doesn't have to be this way. The public is still so clueless overall (and yes, I know we 'here' are understanding - but we are obviously overshadowed by an extreme majority.)

This isn't happening fast enough. My fear is the arrival of a tipping point that will make it even more difficult to overcome than the status quo/mind lock pathology we have now with the majority.

My personal realization is a complex one at this point as the research I am doing has shown some trends which I find beyond belief with regard to the decline of nearly all life support systems in the established order. More than that, the psychology of the masses isn't mature enough; hence informed enough; hence associated with the sustainable values enough - to reconcile any of the component attributes which are needed to comprise the logic that depicts the profound emergency at hand.

The fact is, The Movement will likely not be able to handle the full collapse that is coming after the fact - we have to stop it before it fully matures... and this brings things to an entirely different level of problem solving which I had not anticipated.