Hello, friends and dedicated activists. let me first start out by saying that i have always defended the aims of the movement, but recently i came across a stunning revelation, and my world was ROCKED!And no im not one of those people who come here to discredit the movement, i have often talked about it to others and have met quite a few rich people who also support it on other websites, and have met some people here, and i am part of the Pennsylvania chapter. Please do not turn a deaf ear or blind eye on the email that i have copied and pasted below. I'm looking for what people would suggest, or recommend. ....Anyway here is what i came across, when i was emailing a mutual friend of mine who is in the Rothschild family, regarding the venus project.

YougMissRothschild


Re: Re: I forgot to address this:
The Venus Project is our creation. Very much like the Republicans are a 'counter-balance' to Democrats... just like Coke is a counter-balance to Pepsi...

The Venus Project is an 'endgame' scenario of centralization. When society is ready to be under a Global Governance where they are all 'free to do as they please' and 'free to eat from the food which is produced and stored in the centers'... free to live in homes and land that is established by centralized building...

The new 'Elite' under the Venus Project will be called 'overseers'. They will oversee the technology that operates food generation. They will oversee the technology of travel... the technology of infrastructure... the technology of (yes...) security.

See... the way the Venus Project 'founder' sells his concept, it is a Utopia that cannot exist. Crime doesn't occurr only because of necessity. There are people who are sick and legitimately mentally incapable of existing in the world of civilized men.

If you notice a Peter Joseph interview with Alex Jones... he says: "People who commit crimes won't be driven by need or lack of resources. So we need to see what causes them to commit those crimes."

As you can see... this means that even in their system, they will have 'study' centers. They will have centers where the 'mentally ill' can be studied... where the aggressively dangerous and deranged can be maintained.

There will never be a world without a place to contain mentally unstable individuals.




With all of that being said, it will be most easy to convince the public of the security detail. What you are not told about the Venus project is that in order to 'maintain' society ... people will be 'chipped' of sorts. They will be assigned a chip, a painless injection (as I'm sure you've heard Aaron Russo discuss Rockefeller's comment to have the world 'chipped' so that if they step out of line, all they have to do is 'turn off the chip).

This is what he meant.

See... the Venus Project presents a world where there is plenty... and people don't 'have' to work for it most of the time because it is fully automated. The food is produced and provided and transported to centers where anyone who wants it can go and get it. They can live in a home of superior technology and infrastructure (The Venus Project defined by it's founder even demonstrates that all housing will look about the same... built about the same in a sense most capable of surviving earthquakes or brutal storms by design.

Most effectively sold about the Venus Project is that you are free to follow your own spiritual growth and bask in your freedom in however 'you see fit' because you don't have to 'work' or 'slave' or 'acquire wealth' through tedious activity, you simply go and get what you need.

This is a great design for people who feel that all their life they have been forced to struggle to barely make ends meet. The Venus Project is like a vacation to them. They go and collect the food they want to eat without having to grow it. They simply take it.

Here's the reality behind it based on what Mr. Rockefeller had mentioned to 'Aaron Russo'...

The 'civilians' of the "Venus Project" community will be injected with a chip. Maybe not right away... we will allow people to see the benefits of the community of plenty that we provide through automated technology and oversee. Then... a string of attacks. Violent attacks from mentally unstable and deranged individuals. They attack 'just to see the world burn' as people have put it... because that's what happens. People are actually like that... just inherently self destructive and want to abuse others or come off as 'powerful' by imposing a tough situation on others.

This will lead the way for wide acceptance of the chip.

For those who want to be a part of the Venus Project Community... you must receive a chip that identifies you as a member. This chip then becomes directly linked to your ability to enter the food center. Homes built in the Venus Project community outlines will be chip-accorded... locking and unlocking doors is going to be a removed hassle as your home is able to recognize your chip.

When you visit the food center, you will scan your chip. The chip will record the data of the food you take. It will be needed to update the systems constantly on what food to replace. Documenting what people 'consume' from the food centers will be done by them all scanning their chip. It allows them to 'freely' make use of the food within reason.

It is mostly assumed that the Venus Project existence will differ so much from the average struggling working conditions that everyone will be willing to accept the chip in order to have access to free food and appropriate living conditions ... just to be part of the community will merit the chip... even if you don't want to live in the type of housing presented etc...

Security details will exist. People who attack others... people who try to burn houses... people who get a thrill out of causing mischief will be arrested. The security force will operate at 100% efficiency. The chip will be constantly monitored and as such, someone commiting a murder will be easy to find quickly. Satellite technology will monitor every 'citizen' as they will accept it because being able to eat and live and exist without the need to labour 60-70 hours a week for minimum wage will be so attractive.

Those who become harassing members of the Community will witness the simple horror of 'having their chip turned off' as I mentioned from Rockefeller's quote above. The chip being turned off means they will not have access to the food center. They will not have access to the infrastructure. They will lose all priviledges of being a citizen. No amount of money that they have can purchase food for them or wealth for them on a black market since the economy of the Venus Project will only recognize the scanning codes.

Without 'money' there are limited ways of surviving as well. If you can't hunt or build... and you can't find someone to do them for you... you can't eat. You could have a billion dollars... but if people don't accept it in exchange for food... you will simply starve.

This simple method of 'turning off one's chip' and refusing them access to any level of the culture or community will drive them to desperation. They will flee the community or they will look to rob food to survive. They will look to break into houses or such... this is why the security detail will be so easily accepted by those in the community.

Those who's chips are 'turned off' will be viewed as the criminals they are for the laws they broke and by consequence, will not have access to food, shelter or the perks of the community. If they remain in the vicinities of the outlined community, security will apprehend them and they will be removed or detained. Perhaps even terminated if they continue to offend the community. I hope it doesn't come to this.

If you follow even just the 'story of Eden' in the Bible... the Venus Project will be a veritable 'Eden'... it will be a land of plenty with automated production of food and the constant flow of renewable energy. The exercizing of efficient technology to allow people to simply enter data when they consume product so that that data is interpreted and the food 'system' operatives then know what 'food storage facilities' need what replaced.

To be removed from such a community will feel like being removed from 'Eden'... where you toil and struggle to eat. You can attempte to break back into the Community and you can attempt to pirate along its borders... but in the end... we assume order will prevail. People will be deterred from acting 'out of line' because the chips assure that they will be easily found and the benefits of the community will keep 90-95% of the population satisfied. They will accept the security measures put in place to deal with the outcast 5%-10% who irrationally oppose the system.


To link it all together... the Venus Project is not designated to accomodate billions upon billions upon billions of people. Scattered communities with centralized networking and superior technology... no cramped spaces... beautiful access to nature and peaceful assembly... these are all signs of a community put together for only a set amount of population. They can therefore reproduce and live appropriately without the constraints of 'raping the planet' or needing more than it can provide. Responsible family raising will be easy and necessary... but those who pass on will be more in line with those who are born, healthy monitoring of reproduction rates will be easier.



Based on what I've said... do you still feel I don't understand the 'Venus Project' as you understand it? Clearly, those who feel bad about being 'chipped' and those who feel it is a giant conspiracy will not accept it if the founder explains that they will be chipped... but how do you see the community dealing with those who commit horrendous violent crimes irrationally? How do they 'study the cause of the problem'? Clearly they need medical centers and assessment centers. Clearly 100% of crime will not stop just because 'plenty' is provided...

Clearly 'plenty' is not going to be provided for 9-10 billion people.

If you look at the outlines of the Venus Project as the 'founder' shows it, you see a picture of much living space... preserved beauty, the achitecture of waterways ... a centralized 'brain' like structure wher scientists and other astounding minds come together to work on community-driven goals.

These communities don't overlap... the entire earth isn't 1 community... the communities are very specifically generated... these are designed to have them spaced out so that each community follows the same outline (though communication and cooperation between comunities is just as easy as communication and cooperation among countries today)... Borders will be erased, but there will still be respected 'neutral' zones between each community because there has to be a place for people who just want to go out and explore and go out and hike... hunt... engage in different activities.

Which do you think is more likely? A Venus Project with no security, no cameras, no chips for monitoring... or the Venus Project I've described? Notice I don't ask which is 'better'... since ideally we'd love a world where 100% of crime was driven by necessity and if we had plenty, no crime would occur. That's not the case and so there will always be standards in place to contain crime and irrational behaviour. Which do you see being most likely to occur?


YoungMissRothschild

I swear im not making this up. and it came up when i asked her, what if "society creates a new system on where, we use resources to mkae what we need using the best know methods." she replied with "now your talking hun, you sound like your one of our agents working to introduce the venus project" WHOA! This is when my world was rocked! . What do the rest of you suggest.
This is her profile image on youtube, and yes i have strong reason tobeleive she is in fact a Rothschild and not just posing.

Sounds like a pretty delusional individual.



And, don't take people with high egos too seriously. For all you know she could have just written all that (which is basically an outcome if you made an RBE without truly educating people about it) just to scare the shit out of you.

I'm not sure if an enlightened society with critical thinking skills would that easily allow themselves to become microchipped.

Just my 2 cents.

yOU don't actually know this person??? look--Aaron Russeau was a film maker and he definitely knew in person--been to their house--Nick Rockefeller--he was on the inside--you are not- and you said you would like to be like that? That is contradictory to the movement. These are sick and degenerate folks who are seriously misguided and totally drugged on power and their money just inflates their egos further. They are the ones who are mentally sick and corrupt to the core and would attempt to commit crime and disrupt a progressive emergent society where people have learned to work together. Besides there are so many fake facebooks--the person that posted is probably is not a member of the elite family anyway.

Take a step back, and don't be shocked by what has been said. What happened is somebody made a lot of "weak" connections between TVP and NWO (which is bogus btw).

I see nothing wrong with "containing" psychopaths and murderers as long as we learn from them and ultimately try to rehabilitate them (don't be frightened by the word rehabilitation).

Currently, we treat people as if they have freewill and they are responsible for all of their actions. We put no blame on society or environmental factors (except perhaps with children). We punish supposed criminals for what society led/forced them to do. I don't think it's fair that they should be rehabilitated, but it must be done.

This mandatory chip stuff is all made up. I've never ever heard JF, RM, or PJ speak of mandatory chips. Commenting on pictures drawn by JF is silly. They are simply concept art. He always mentions that his ideas are just that, ideas. They aren't final products and serve only as inspiration.

If the Rothschild's, or whoever else, support the Movement -- good for them. Ultimately, they're not pulling the strings. They're not calling the shots. They would be completely dis empowered by a money-less society. They have no power under such circumstances.

I got a good laugh out of reading that work of fiction.

By the way, if the worlds elite were working to promote The Venus Project, we would have EASILY have had massive mainstream media attention by now. We don't, and we never have.

This e-mail makes no sense at all. If there was a higher establishment family over TVP, then this movement has a LOT of loose cannons floating around. The decision-making power in this movement is spread far too thin amongst its members to make me believe someone else is pulling the strings. It doesn't make sense. Still, that e-mail hinges on the a few premises that we all know is bullsh*t and gets blasted down on this forum on a daily basis.

yeah, sorry to say it, there is obviously little understanding of the general fundamental concepts regarding TVP. i got through part of it and had to scroll through the rest.

but thanks for sharing

Please don't post crap like this here.

If you do, put it (here) in Misc. All it does is distract and create noise. We all know there is an Alex Jones-ian brainwashed sub culture that thinks anything new must be NWO or the like. It's old and boring and pointless. These mentalities will project into TZM/TVP and find whatever they want to find. To ignore is the best policy, unless they actually how evidence of the nonsense they claim- which they never - ever do.

i dint say i would like ot be like them, if ur reffering to my home page, its jsut for show.
and you why do you dismiss this? waht if in 10 years she turns out to be true, will you apologize to me, for blowing me off?