I wouldn't call 20 short questions in depth. But, it's irrelevant really. What's most appealing to me is that after watching 2 Zeitgeist movies I have, maybe for the 1st time in my life, began to actually enjoy learning more about our economic system etc. After all, TVP advocates that societies and humanity as a whole are evolving through COOPERATION and it's goal is to elevate everyone to their highest intellectual, emotional & physical potential. EVERYONE, not just a select few. Knowing this, I immediately decided to join this movement, not to mention the goose bumps I felt during watching the 1st 2 Zeitgeist movies. That was enough 4 me to realize that there is value in joining TZM, since I always follow my inner guidance. Unless something happens that will screw up- ahem, destroy- my faith in TZM, I will remain here fully supporting its cause.

duram wrote:
just look at "zeitguy's" elitist post, it's obviouse that your test IS CREATING ELITISM, and it has to change..

Hey duram, Like you, I came here with my attitude, Peter didn't 'create it'. You don't see me complaining how he is 'creating whiners' and referencing you. If anything, Peter has helped to temper my ego which previously would have taken pleasure by insulting you further.

Just because somebody wants to see a society without money doesn't mean they can't use money, just as somebody who wants to see a society without hierarchy doesn't mean they can't exercise authority.

These are simple concepts. If a student can't comprehend them they should be removed from the class. I am here seeking wisdom, which I have found some here by members posting their sincere concerns and criticism of the test. But, that's not what you are doing. You are just arguing. Save it for Utopia.

Zeit Guy wrote:
Just because somebody wants to see a society without money doesn't mean they can't use money, just as somebody who wants to see a society without hierarchy doesn't mean they can't exercise authority.
My opinion on this is undecided, but it definitely strikes me as hypocritical... What about "be the change you want to see"?

What duram wants to do is to enable the trolls to get into these forums (conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/answers-to-zeitgeist-test), by asking constantly for the answers to be shown wrong or correct after completetion of the test, so that unwanted guests could make their "cheatpaper" better...$5 says duram is a sock puppet account...

But don't buy me word for it, go to the link I've provided and see for yourself...

My 2 cents...

duram wrote:
the test is not BASIC tenets, it has very indepth info. And I didn't say get rid of the test, I said the exact opposite, but all the rebuttals that support the test are doing it from the standpoint that it is a discussion on wether or not to keep the test. I'm trying to get one moderator to get over his ego and have a discussion without them changing context of the conversation , at will, then ignoring us in their arrogant "we know better" attitudes. Peter I'm getting very disillusioned here, where the hell are you? I'm a very big activist for the cause, because it is everybody's cause. You can't change the staus quo until you're able to understand your own cause. By the reaction you are giving here you don't even understand your own movement any better than the worst troll, just look at "zeitguy's" elitist post, it's obviouse that your test IS CREATING ELITISM, and it has to change. All you have is a scientific theory that you are unwilling to advance past your own ego. Get back on here and show some spine, by showing that you are willing to practice what you preach even though i didn't kiss your ass in exactly the right way to get you to listen me.
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Croatdude wrote:
What duram wants to do is to enable the trolls to get into these forums (conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/answers-to-zeitgeist-test), by asking constantly for the answers to be shown wrong or correct after completetion of the test, so that unwanted guests could make their "cheatpaper" better...$5 says duram is a sock puppet account...

But don't buy me word for it, go to the link I've provided and see for yourself...

My 2 cents...

Wow even Domokato and CyborgJesus are on that site where they are putting together a cheat sheet and it seems someone has actually succeeded in making one. Just goes to show when your trying to do something as radical as we are doing people will fight you every step of the way....

Duram, just don't use the bad words here... I suppose not even in a humorous way. Other than that you started a good thread; it shows how even though members here are all alike thinking about RBE, at the same time we split on such little matters -- acceptance tests for new forum members -- that turn out to be BIG matters.

"Croatdude wrote:
What duram wants to do is to enable the trolls to get into these forums (conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/answers-to-zeitgeist-test), by asking constantly for the answers to be shown wrong or correct after completetion of the test, so that unwanted guests could make their "cheatpaper" better...$5 says duram is a sock puppet account...

But don't buy me word for it, go to the link I've provided and see for yourself...

My 2 cents...

Wow even Domokato and CyborgJesus are on that site where they are putting together a cheat sheet and it seems someone has actually succeeded in making one. Just goes to show when your trying to do something as radical as we are doing people will fight you every step of the way.... "

At least domokato is showin his dislikes towards the Movement here, on the forum. While CyborJesus acts like he's a passionate supporter of the Movement here, on the conspiracy science forums, he shows his other side. Very hypocritical.

Let's please keep to the topic gentlemen...thanks.

domokato wrote:
Zeit Guy wrote:
Just because somebody wants to see a society without money doesn't mean they can't use money, just as somebody who wants to see a society without hierarchy doesn't mean they can't exercise authority.
My opinion on this is undecided, but it definitely strikes me as hypocritical... What about "be the change you want to see"?

I believe ideology should be compromised for commons sense, hypocritical or not. Just because I'm non-violent doesn't mean I won't hit back. etc.. Maybe that concept can be explored on a future test.